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Sunday, September 18, 2005
 



Here is the video of the Hitchens Vs. Galloway debate at Baruch College, New York, 14 September 2005.

They say Galloway won on points - I think he won some other dubious argument which had no connection with what Hitchens was debating.

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Running through the whole thing again as one is prone to when confronted with these sorts of arguments it is useful to come across an interview like this :

American Amnesia Interviews John Mearsheimer {part I} {and part II}

Clive Davis runs through some of the post-match opinion


half way down :


I always think that this excerpt from Orwell is apropos anytime that I hear about the hard left bullying people out of a dialogue:

"There are families in which the father will say to his child, ‘You'll get a thick ear if you do that again’, while the mother, her eyes brimming over with tears, will take the child in her arms and murmur lovingly, ‘Now, darling, is it kind to Mummy to do that?’ And who would maintain that the second method is less tyrannous than the first? The distinction that really matters is not between violence and non-violence, but between having and not having the appetite for power. There are people who are convinced of the wickedness both of armies and of police forces, but who are nevertheless much more intolerant and inquisitorial in outlook than the normal person who believes that it is necessary to use violence in certain circumstances. They will not say to somebody else, ‘Do this, that and the other or you will go to prison’, but they will, if they can, get inside his brain and dictate his thoughts for him in the minutest particulars. Creeds like pacifism and anarchism, which seem on the surface to imply a complete renunciation of power, rather encourage this habit of mind. For if you have embraced a creed which appears to be free from the ordinary dirtiness of politics — a creed from which you yourself cannot expect to draw any material advantage — surely that proves that you are in the right? And the more you are in the right, the more natural that everyone else should be bullied into thinking likewise."

--From "Lear, Tolstoy and the Fool"

Posted by: Aaron Azlant, Thursday, September 15, 2005




 
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